by Jason Guenther

      The jews when they confronted Jesus 2000 years ago, gloated that they were Abrahams "seed". They mocked Jesus as if to say that because they were Abrahams "seed", Jesus words didnt apply to them because they were "SAVED" being abrahams "seed", no judgment would come unto them, they covered divinely being Abrahams "seed"....


Jn.8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
38 ¶ I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

(Why do ye suppose they immediately jumped in with the "FORNICATION" thingy?????.....Gen.6 perhaps????)

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.



     The difference in the conversation is "SEED" and "CHILDREN". Jesus did not deny that they were of the "SEED" of Abraham, what he denied was that they were Abrahams......"CHILDREN". The two are not the same. The "SEED" of Abraham......PREDATES ABRAHAM HIMSELF. Abraham was a CHALDEAN from UR. (Gen.11:31). Abraham moved from there and became a "CANAANITE" (Gen.12:5). It was from the land of Canaan that God called him. Now the blessing that came unto Abraham had to deal with "SAND".....


18 Then Abram removed his tent, and came and dwelt in the plain of Mamre, which is in Hebron, and built there an altar unto the LORD.
1 ¶ And it came to pass in the days of Amraphel king of Shinar, Arioch king of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal king of nations;
2 That these made war with Bera king of Sodom, and with Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, and Shemeber king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela, which is Zoar.
3 All these were joined together in the vale of Siddim, which is the salt sea.
4 Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year they rebelled.


Ge 22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;


Ge 32:12 And thou saidst, I will surely do thee good, and make thy seed as the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude.


Jud 7:12 And the Midianites and the Amalekites and all the children of the east lay along in the valley like grasshoppers for multitude; and their camels were without number, as the sand by the sea side for multitude.


1Sa 13:5 And the Philistines gathered themselves together to fight with Israel, thirty thousand chariots, and six thousand horsemen, and people as the sand which is on the sea shore in multitude: and they came up, and pitched in Michmash, eastward from Bethaven.


1Ki 4:20 Judah and Israel were many, as the sand which is by the sea in multitude, eating and drinking, and making merry


Ho 1:10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

         The "SEED" of Abraham predates Abraham himself, includes ALL NATIONS that were first upon the earth including AMORITES, AMELEKITES......."NEPHILLIM"!!!!. The PHILISTINES were part of that "seed", Judah and Israel also a part of it. All men on the face of the earth were made from ONE BLOOD....ADAM thus there are NO RACES and what the jews were saying is that they were a DIVINE RACE through Abraham, "BY FLESH" The blessing of God was to come upon Abrahams "CHILDREN". Abrahams 'children' are those counted for the "PROMISE" and they are OF the seed THROUGH faith.....


Ro 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.


Ro 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.


      Abrahams "CHILDREN" which are Gods children THROUGH FAITH are those accounted for the "seed" which the blessing came to. They can be of "ANY NATIONALITY, CULTURE, LANGUAGE" for the "seed" in multitude applied to most every nation that was on the earth! ISHMAEL came from Abraham and part of the seed. Now, the JEWS when they confronted Jesus in Jn.8 had claimed to Jesus that "THEIR HOUSE WAS OF .......THE SAND"....... They claimed that because they were of Abrahams "SEED" that they were of THE HOUSE of Abraham, his "children"....THE SAND AND THE STARS OF HEAVEN......WHICH WAS A LIE! Only the children of "PROMISE" are counted for the seed who are "ABRAHAMS CHILDREN", the children of DAMNATION are accounted for......THE SAND & STARS!.........

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:

     The children of "SAND" claim they have some special blessing unto them that protects them from being CAST OUT" and away from God. The children of the SAND have placed "A LIGHT BESIDE MOTHER AND FATHER" thereby being "CURSED". The children of THE PROMISE have put the children of THE SAND........"under their feet".......

Re 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.


Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.


Mt 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.


Ro 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.


The children of the SAND are "many", they are......THE HOST OF HEAVEN....and the ...SAND OF THE SEA......


Ge 22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;


Jer 33:22 As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.


Heb 11:12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.


Re 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.


De 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.


De 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;


2Ki 17:16 And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.


2Ki 21:5 And he built altars for all the host of heaven in the two courts of the house of the LORD.


Isa 34:4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.


Jer 8:2 And they shall spread them before the sun, and the moon, and all the host of heaven, whom they have loved, and whom they have served, and after whom they have walked, and whom they have sought, and whom they have worshipped: they shall not be gathered, nor be buried; they shall be for dung upon the face of the earth.


Zep 1:5 And them that worship the host of heaven upon the housetops; and them that worship and that swear by the LORD, and that swear by Malcham;


Ac 7:42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness?



THE SAYERS ARE THE "HOST OF HEAVEN" AND THE "SAND" OF THE SEA! THEY ARE "THOSE GODS WHO HAVE NOT MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH"....


Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?


ANYONE IN THE HOUSE OF THE LORD THAT SECRETLY BELIEVES AND CLAIMS THEIR A "JEW" BY FLESH........ARE SAND AND STARS.....AND THE HOST OF HEAVEN. THEIR DOOM COMETH QUICKLY.......


Ex 23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.


Ex 23:32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods.


Ex 32:1 And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.


Ex 32:23 For they said unto me, Make us gods, which shall go before us: for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.


De 11:16 Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them

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De 32:16 They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger.


De 31:16 And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.


Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites (SAYERS), in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.


Jud 2:3 Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you.


Jud 5:8 They chose new gods; then was war in the gates: was there a shield or spear seen among forty thousand in Israel?


Jer 5:7 How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots’ houses.


Jer 7:9 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;



Jer 10:11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.


Jer 43:12 And I will kindle a fire in the houses of the gods of Egypt; and he shall burn them, and carry them away captives: and he shall array himself with the land of Egypt, as a shepherd putteth on his garment; and he shall go forth from thence in peace.


1Co 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven (HOST/STARS) or in earth (SAND), (as there be gods many, and lords many,)


Ga 4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.


De 1:10 The LORD your God hath multiplied you, and, behold, ye are this day as the stars of heaven for multitude.


Jud 5:20 They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.


Job 3:9 Let the stars of the twilight thereof be dark; let it look for light, but have none; neither let it see the dawning of the day:


Job 25:5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.


Ob 1:4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.


Mt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:


Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.


Re 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.


Re 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.


Da 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.



THEY SAYERS......"JEWS"........ARE THE GODS!!!!. THE>>>>STRANGE<<<<<GODS.........."STRANGERS".....IN THE LAND, THE MRY CLAY THAT MINGLE WITH THE SEED OF MEN, BUT SHALL NOT AND CANNOT CLEAVE WITH "THE IRON" (Rev.19;15)!


Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


Mt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.



       DO NOT GO AFTER THEM, DO NOT SERVE THEM, DO NOT MAKE A COVENANT WITH THEM, BUT YOU SHALL UTTERLY BRAKE DOWN THEIR IMAGES, AND "DESTROY" THEM FROM AMONGST YOU WITH THINE MOUTH LESS THE WRATH OF THE LORD IS KINDLED AND TAKES YOU AWAY. MAKE NO MISTAKE....."ITS THE JEWS/THE SAYERS"....WHO ARE THOSE GODS WHO HAVE NOT MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH, WHOSE FATHER IS THE DEVIL, WHO GET YOU TO BOW AND SERVE THEM, MAKE "COVENANTS" WITH THEM. THEY ARE HOST OF HEAVEN AND THE SAND OF THE SEA, THEY HAVE "NO TRUTH IN THEM", THEY ARE....NOT....COUNTED FOR THE SEED NOR ARE ABRAHAMS "CHILDREN" AND THEIR DOOM COMES SOON......VERY VERY SOON!