Well then, what do ye mean "SEE" THE SON?. Its exactly what it says it means. Have YOU "SEEN" THE SON?. If you say you have, then shew me the correct biblical TESTIMONY with all of its MARKS so that I can find out if it lines up with scripture. Its that simple. Make sure it is the RIGHT KIND, and not of NEW WINE for my bible is very clear about what is the correct "testimony". Do you know what I'm even talking about right now?. Let me help you out a little by showing you what the WORD has to say about a certain DOCTRINE that is very clear and found throughout all of scripture yet 99.9999% of the majority of Christianity deny that its there, and utterly deny any "truth" that shows it in scripture. Amongst the many doctrines that are no where to be found in modern Christianity, this one is practically no where to be found yet sits in front of there FACE every time they open the scriptures. I wonder now, could it be they don't "see" it and recognize it because they have totally fallen prey to the FALSE GOSPEL and its "snare of a fowler"? Hmm........I wonder now. What doctrine would I be talkin about here you say?. I am talking about the 'doctrine" and COMMANDMENT TO SEEK THE "FACE" OF THE LORD!!!. Have you seen the "face" of the Lord? You had better seek his FACE and find him while you can or else you are not gonna make the cut. Every prophet in the bible including Christ and the apostles spoke of this all over the place so there will be NO EXCUSE. God's "FACE" is not in the bible so the scripture won't help you in that department. Your VAIN IMAGINATION will not help you out here for if you say you have "seen" the Lord and have not IN TRUTH EXPERIENTIALLY, than you are a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE and.........KNOWEST NOT!!!. The book of Job is a wealth of "narrow way", "lowest room", SEEK THE FACE theology. This one book of the bible is probably more misunderstood  by modern theology than any other book in the scripture. It is also a wealth of another missing and misunderstood doctrine deleted from modern theology and Christianity at large, and that is the doctrine of "WAITING" UPON THE LORD that is repeated over and over again in the scriptures. Job says some pretty blunt things folks, and there really isn't any reason why they are not understood except for maybe a GREAT DECEPTION and a certain "veil" that is over the minds of men. Even moreso at this time due to a certain LYING GOSPEL which is upheld at large yet they KNOWEST NOT. Lets hear from Job:

        What in fact does Job mean here? What is this APPOINTED TIME he is referring to here? Well, it is the APPOINTED TIME OF VISITATION for every believer who is obedient unto the commands and sayings of Jesus Christ. Make no mistake here for Job is very clear that it is for a appointed time while man is UPON THE EARTH. Job is not talking about the great white throne judgment IN HEAVEN, he's not talkin about the RESURRECTION, in no uncertain terms he says it is for a time while UPON THE EARTH........WHILE ALIVE IN THE "FLESH". In no uncertain terms either is Job talking about the appointed TIME SPAN of mans life on the earth, but is talking of a certain APPOINTED TIME for man upon the earth. Job knows something his 3 pals Bildad, Elihu, and Eliphaz do not. This also and especially includes Jobs wife who told him at one point to CURSE GOD AND DIE!!!. You see, Job knew that he had to see the FACE of the Lord. He knew he had an "appointed time" of his own personal and fully EXPERIENTIAL VISITATION by the Lord. Job SAW THE "SON" and his testimony and marks are found all through his book in lots of ways...."Thou hast granted me LIFE and favor (grace), and thy VISITATION hath preserved my SPIRIT"......(Job 10:12). Its everywhere to be "seen" in the pages if you can  believe what you are reading. Jobs belief in this 'appointed time' was scoffed and mocked by his 3 friends, and Job stated that clearly:

       Job furthermore reiterates here that the JUST and UPRIGHT man "calls upon God". What is it that the just and upright man calls and ASKS for I wonder? Hmm....wouldnt happen to be SALVATION would it?. Job is also testifying to the fact that God ANSWERETH HIM and the very intent of the literation is "answereth" 100% FULLY EXPERIENTIALLY. You are not "calling" the Lord reading the scripture folks, Job is talking about a literal CALLING UPON GOD here. Now brothers and sisters, Jobs 3 friends brought ANOTHER GOSPEL in there remarks to Job for God at the end of the book wanted to WASTE jobs 3 friends on the spot for they did not SPEAK RIGHTLY. Job did speak what is right and for that he was in fact REWARDED with his "reward" which came from his VISITATION. Jobs 3 friends constantly MOCKED Jobs position repeatedly, and Job did nothing but call them HYPOCRITES, WICKED, and about every other name you can think of, yet Job spoke what was RIGHT and he was "rewarded". Why is this? Because Jobs 3 friends believed in ANOTHER GOSPEL other than he believed in most obviously for Job rails this throughout the book if your LISTENING. Jobs 3 friends had JUSTIFIED........"THEMSELVES" and were in actual fact trying to get job to do the same for they brought ANOTHER GOSPEL other than the one given to MOSES at that time if the book of Job is not as old as modern scholars say, but if it is than it is still referring to the EVERLASTING GOSPEL which Job "knew" and his 3 friends did not. Check it out:

        Yes ladies and gentlemen, we have here are two different Gospels because the literary intent here is JUSTIFIED OF GOD. Job would not justify himself nor would he justify his 3 friends either. To be PERFECT here folks is to be SAVED IN TRUTH. You are not until you are and that's what Job is saying here that he would absolutely not SAVE HIMSELF VIA THE FALSE GOSPEL if you put it into 20th century perspective. job said that if it even came out of his "mouth" that he was SAVED it would PROVE him 'perverse'. Are you sure you know what's being talked about in the book of Job? There was a very real BATTLE going on between Job and his 3 friends and the issue was between two different GOSPELS when you study it all out. All 3 of Jobs friends all through the book constantly justify themselves, gloat of there salvation and place in God, and Job did the very EXACT OPPOSITE in every place. Jobs friends were for all intensive purposes attempting to convert Job into the false gospel of FAITH IN FAITH and there battle cry throughout the book is "WE are saved by favour (grace) through our VAIN IMAGINATION (faith as understood today), and Job would have none of it for he absolutely was on a one track mission to "SEE" THE SON for real. He was not in any way going to "justify" himself till he had his APPOINTED VISITATION. Job knew the truth of the real Gospel folks and its in fact an everlasting Gospel and one of the primary tenets is to SEEK GODS "FACE". The COMMAND to seek the face of the Lord has NEVER been rescinded, it is vital to authentic salvation and Job knew it. Jobs 3 friends SCOFFED and MOCKED him for it. These 3 friends constantly gloated of some kind of "knowledge" or belief in the SCRIPTURES that they had and Job did not and because of that they viewed Job in the exact opposite of what is TRUE. They constantly stated that it was Job that had "justified" himself, condemned him, laughed at him, and for all intensive purposes cast him away TO THE PIT OF HELL in there opinion for Job would not go along with that SPIRIT OF MAMMON. Job constantly reiterated that his 3 friends did not "KNOW" anything that Job did not:

       Now, guess what Jobs 3 friends were insinuating to Job in their words of help for old Job. The very translation for the word "inferior" comes from the root where we get the word "NEPHILLIM". Ahh.....me thinks Job was getting insulted real bad by his "friends", and it was because of THE WAY!!!. Yepper, these 3 be bringin a different Gospel to Job and job tells them all over the place. Jobs 3 friends were constantly talking down to Job as if he were INFERIOR because of what he believed, and what he was tellin his 3 friends is that he believed he absolutely and unequivocally had to seek and find GODS JUDGMENT SEAT WHILE HE WAS "ALIVE" and that he would not "justify" himself until he was justified in person by God....FACE TO FACE. If you really study it out you will realize that Job is in fact saying that he knows he's SAVED, and BEING SAVED, but he is not saved in truth yet for he awaits his VISITATION. Jobs friends on the other hand lifted themselves up as having superior wisdom and knowledge, and for all intensive purposes, tried to convince Job that BELIEF was enough to be 'saved' IN TRUTH and that the fact that Job would NOT believe this, he was mocked and laughed to scorn. Now, what is it that Job says that he knows as well as his friends?. Ill tell you, Job knew he was "saved" just like his 3 friends. Job knew that he was not "inferior" to his friends because of his "position". Jobs 3 friends mocked and taunted Job and tried to convert him  to the JUST "BELIEVE" AND THEREFORE "I AM" CULT!!!. Jobs 3 friends were representatives of the NAME IT AND CLAIM IT CROWD. Look, Jobs 3 friends in fact had no idea what they were saying to Job, for they spoke in utter ignorance. In fact, one of the 3 even insults the "SON" most dreadfully (Job 25:6), and is one of the reasons why God wanted to SMITE them on the spot. Job knew THE WAY of the "spirit" (Job 9:11).Now, what is it exactly that Job said and was saying that made his friends surround him like vultures and mock and scorn him to derision?. Well, you'll find tinges of it all throughout the book of Job:

       Well, this is exactly what was getting Jobs 3 friends all in a tiff. They just did not believe the TRUE GOSPEL. Now, look at the wording of this verse very closely and realize that Job is NOT talking about the RESURRECTION here and that he fully understands the concept of REDEEMER and that his 3 friends did not. Job states that even though he knows that "AFTER" he will die and his body destroyed by worms, but until that time he will WAIT until he "sees" God.........IN THE FLESH WHILE ALIVE FOR WE ARE NOT RESURRECTED INTO "FLESH"!!!. Job says that he will see him for HIMSELF......IN THE FLESH and that his "eyes" will behold him. Until that time Job says that his REINS shall be consumed within him and no wonder for no-one around him BELIEVED the truth and God had removed his hand from Job......at least to Jobs perception. Jobs 3 friends also did not know who the "redeemer" was. They did not know THE HOLY ONE and Job kept on tellin them that (Job 21:28). They didn't know who the "SON" was. These 3 friends by-passed the HOLY ONE and tried to go to YAHWEH via the I BELIEVE THUS I AM false doctrine. It is this 'truth" that Job followed that made his wife and friends MOCK and laugh him to scorn. While his friends "justified" themselves via a false gospel, Job obeyed and ABASED himself and proceeded through the STRAIGHT GATE and walked the NARROW WAY 'down" to the LOWEST ROOM where he knows his REDEEMER said would meet him......."He hath stripped me of my glory, and taken the CROWN ("I'm saved") from my head. He hath destroyed me on every side, and I am gone: and my HOPE ("I'm saved") hath he removed like a tree".....(Job 19:9-10). All around him hated abhorred him. His kinsfolk and familiar friends who now mock him become STRANGERS AND "ALIENS" to him (Job 19:13-19). Now, jobs 3 friends railing accusation was that NO MAN CAN "SEE" THE "FACE" OF THE LORD AND LIVE. That is TRUE, but moreso, nothing ALIVE that is "flesh" can approach the THRONE of God. Therefore, to approach God one must be ABASED, BROKEN, CONTRITE......DEAD for we are dealing with the SPIRIT here for the "flesh" is accounted for nothing. So then, one must go down to the LOWEST ROOM via the STRAIGHT GATE & NARROW WAY which leadeth unto LIFE...........which comes after a DEATH via the narrow way. Job preached the words of the HOLY ONE to his friends (Job 6:10) and the response from his friends was exactly what you get from a FALSE GOSPEL PROPONENT......."For thou hast said, MY DOCTRINE IS "PURE", and I am CLEAN in thine eyes".......(Job 11:4). Job was also very direct and clear when he answered his friends and they understood EXACTLY what he was talking about:

       So then, Job went against the DOCTRINE of his 3 friends and was persuaded to find the JUDGMENT SEAT of the Lord in the FLESH. Job also understood something of the SECRET of the Lord, and he knows that his CHANGE......."redemption" will come while he is alive and that he will WAIT all his appointed days if he has to. His appointed "days" are 3 score and ten, and he is not referring to this as the APPOINTED TIME of man for that's referred to by the "SET" TIME or rather SET "APPOINTED" TIME. This "change" he's talking about is a HEART CHANGE and he knows it comes personally from the SON for Job refers to him in many different ways and names in his book. No, Job was talking to 3 friends who believed in and tried to convert him to the I BELIEVE THEREFORE "I AM" CULT. Job would have absolutely none of it and kept telling his friends his position, and they kept MOCKING and LAUGHING him to scorn. Jobs 3 friends even mocked and scoffed JESUS CHRIST in there tirade against Job and the Lord was real PISSED OFF!!!. Jobs perseverance paid off in the end and he got to the THRONE. Job "overcame" the false prophets of his day and he was REWARDED:

        Job had his time of "visitation" which was his time at the JUDGMENT SEAT of God while he was in the FLESH. God ANSWERED Job out of the WIND........the "whirlwind" and he SPOKE in an audible EXPERIENTIAL voice which Job could hear. Pay particular attention to Jobs words in 42:5-6 for it says a great deal. Job "heard" of the Lord by the hearing of the EAR and its this verse here that scholars conclude that this book is the oldest in the bible for it dates at a time before Moses wrote the Torah and the "WORD" was passed from mouth to mouth. When Job "heard" the Word for REAL he testifies of something quite interesting. He says that his EYE SEETH THEE!!!. That's because there is another factor involved here with Gods PRESENCE before Job, for Job beheld his GLORY wherefore he "abhorred" himself in dust and ashes.

        God MANIFESTED himself to Job in the way that Job kept professing to his 3 friends for Job was doing what we as Christians today know as BOLDLY GOING BEFORE THE THRONE OF "GRACE", yet this is but perverted as well in modern Christianity amongst the I BELIEVE THEREFORE "I AM" cult. This is where the "grace" is FOUND folks and its found at the BEMA JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST which you better seek and find while yet ALIVE. Read ch.42:7 and understand that God was gonna waste Jobs 3 friends and if not by the prayer of Job, they probably would have went quick down into the PIT!!!.  Jobs 3 friends constantly tried to dissuade Job from something they scoffed at. They tried to get Job to go OUT OF THE WAY and scoffed at the idea of going before the throne of JUDGMENT then GRACE (Job 34:22-23). No doubt whatsoever that the story of jobs 3 friends and Jobs walk is EXACTLY emulated today between the MANY and the FEW. The MANY believe and carry a DIFFERENT GOSPEL than the "everlasting" Gospel of scripture. Job is not the only one to right of this enigmous and mysterious DOCTRINE that is denied by the MANY for David had a great deal to write of this as well. David testified of the FACE of the Lord al throughout the Psalms, for David SAW the face of the Lord as well. His TESTIMONY is also found all over the Psalms in many different ways. David states right off at beginning who it is that's in the WHIRLWIND that visited Job (Psa.2:12). David, like Job, testifies of his MARKS all throughout the Psalms, and like Job, David knew the SECRET of the Lord (Job 15:8, 29:4):

       See, if your paying attention here you'll notice that David tells you what the 'secret" of the Lord is in the very verse he mentions it. David knew the SECRET was that God would SHEW him his "covenant".....the EVERLASTING "covenant" PERSONALLY while David was in the "flesh" while ALIVE. This "secret" that David is talking about is what the false gospel proponents today call the SECOND BLESSING in there false gospel theology, for there God is a DEAD GOD. There is no possible way that there God would personally VISIT them in their CLOSET and SHEW them his FACE and his COVENANT. IMPOSSIBLE they cry, yet this is exactly what Christ meant by "WITH GOD NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE"!!!. They rail and mock and claim "we are saved by GRACE lest any man should boast" for have have no need of JUDGMENT!. They are "saved by grace" after all, and have no need for LITERAL REDEMPTION for they like their vain little imaginations to much. David had a great deal to say about the missing doctrine of SEEKING THE "FACE" of the Lord, and he speaks about it all over the Psalms. David had the "covenant" of the Lord SHEWED to him and folks, it wasn't shewed GNOSTIC ALLY through the scriptures like the false gospel proponents believe.

        Now 26:7-8 bears the exact same "ring" as what Job was getting at with the "ANSWERETH" HIM!!!. David is yet once again telling you about the SECRET OF THE LORD. He states that his is the generation that SEEKS the Lord, and that SEEK HIS "FACE". This is a good time to bring up the subject of yet another missing doctrine in today's theology and that of this WAIT UPON THE LORD found all throughout the scriptures. What do you think this implies? Could it possibly have something to do with the SECRET of the Lord? I think so, and is another reason why it is totally missing from today's theology....THE REAL "TRUTH" OF THE DOCTRINE OF "WAIT" UPON THE LORD......."WAIT ON THE LORD: be of good COURAGE (KJV "cult" proponents take notice), and he shall strengthen thine HEART: WAIT, I say, on the LORD"......(Psalm 27:14). You will find that from the time of Moses, until the time of David, no-one bares a biblical testimony on RECORD in scripture. David told some mysterious things to the true seekers about the SECRET of the Lord. Isn't it a coincidence that we just so happen to be living on the verge of the SECOND COMING OF........THE "SON". Hmm......isn't this interesting now. Lots of folks out there think they have "SEEN" the son via false gospel. Many believe they are WRITTEN up and REDEEMED already by a false gospel. Many think they are BORN-AGAIN cause they've had a little too much NEW WINE (or is it OLD WINE........CUP OF "DEMONS" MAYBE?). David testifies from WHERE he was "redeemed" all through the Psalms (Psa.30:2-3). David states over and over that he is steadfast and is going to stay on the course and FIND the "son" all throughout the Psalms (Psa.55:16). Just like Job, David's kinsmen, became a STRANGER to him and he became an ALIEN to them (Psa.69:8). Just like Job, David knew what the false gospel proponents of his day did and who they did it against even though they KNEWEST NOT......"Yea, they TURNED BACK and TEMPTED God, and LIMITED the HOLY ONE of Israel"......(Psalm 78:41). They were JEHOVAH, YAHWEH, AROUND THE SON TO THE "FATHER" CULTISTS that brought another GOSPEL and were for all intensive purposes ANTICHRIST!!!. These folks were "wandering clouds" and just like Job, David did "righteous judgment" IN TRUTH. Here is an O.T. verse that a N.T. "period" christian should understand perfectly what it says.

       Look at Psalm 105:19 for David is testifying who REDEEMED him and how it happened. Its very simple. Read it. Until JESUS CHRIST "MANIFESTED", the SCRIPTURE (word) tried David. In Psa.104:27, the "meat" spoken of there is a code word for the "truth" that MAKES one "free". The POSSESSION of that truth which does not come from scripture but is granted in person by God at his APPEARING while in the flesh. With that "visitation" comes your REWARD.......ETERNAL LIFE, GRACE, SIGNED, "SEALED", DELIVERED!!!. David is not prophesying future tense, this is his TESTIMONY and the literary intent is in the first person speaking i.e. David here. he is speaking from the perspective of PAST EXPERIENCE in the text here for the "HIM" is David. David writes a great deal about the LOWEST ROOM in his Psalms. David knew what it was like to walk the NARROW WAY for he walked it to the lowest room and SAW THE FACE OF THE LORD. David bares this testimony in dozens of ways throughout the Psalms and he says it this way......"I CALLED upon the Lord in distress: the Lord ANSWERED me, and set me in a LARGE PLACE"......(Psalm 118:5). The "large place" David is talking about here is an UPPER ROOM. It is the opposite of what the "lowest room" is for the lowest room is a very SMALL PLACE. Its is a very "small" room which only the FEW can FIND for only the "few" will ENTER IN the "straight gate" and walk the "narrow way" to find LIFE. Now, your still saying to yourself, we are not under the LAW and where is this so-called COMMANDMENT to seek the "face" of the Lord?. Its found all over your bible if you can SEE and have ears to HEAR!. You will find the "commandment" in 2 Chron.7:14 and confirmed over and over again by every prophet and apostle, and most importantly JESUS CHRIST in the scriptures:

       The 'command' to SEEK THE FACE of the Lord is an ongoing commandment that is EVERMORE. In fact, it is DEADLY to ignore and most certainly puts you OUT OF THE WAY. The end of 2 Chron. 7:14 is definitely referring to ADULTERY and its effects on the 'land' for the folks back then believed a DIFFERENT GOSPEL. like i said, David leaves his TESTIMONY all throughout the Psalms and it can be seen everywhere......"In my DISTRESS I cried unto the lord, and he HEARD ME"......(Psa.120:1)........"In the day I cried thou ANSWEREDST me, and strenghtenedst me with strength in my SOUL".....(Psa.138:3). What happened when God 'heard him"? Why he VISITED him and RANSOMED him from the "lowest room". The DEVIL will bring every "antichrist" he can muster up to come and take you OUT OF THE WAY so that you do not "SEE" THE SON. He will bring the false gospel by the false prophet who's maybe drunk on new wine and offer you exactly what Satan had on the end of his fishing pole in the garden....."YE SHALL BE AS GODS"........or rather, "justify yourself" via a false doctrine and you never see the FACE!!!. David knew full well the SECRET of the Lord and he OVERCAME the 'lying' and 'hypocritical' cults of his day. The false gospel proponents were MANY and the false prophets GREAT and David knew full well. He referred to them and there FALSE DOCTRINES in many different ways, and in most cases, referred to them in the same breath he speaks of the SECRET of the Lord subtly.

        Now, when you see something like this in scripture you have to look closely and pay attention. Now David repeats something 3 times which is a spiritual signature that this is right from the THRONE. "WAIT" is the word here and it means what it means in its simplicity. It means to WAIT FOR JUSTIFICATION PERSONALLY BY GOD. The other folks around David were those who WATCH FOR THE "MORNING". They justified themselves via the SCRIPTURE through "false doctrine" via 'false prophets" and they await the RESURRECTION!!!. Doubt it not, but a false gospel just like we have today was around in David's day. David repeats himself twice in verse 6 and when God repeats anything especially in the same verse you had better know that what's being said is really important. David says that he WAITS more than "they" and he repeats it. "They" are those who "believe" they are SAVED BY THE SCRIPTURE!!!. If David's HOPE was in the WORD, why does he need "hope" if there is SALVATION via the scripture?. David is very detailed and says that it is his SOUL that waits for it must be REDEEMED!!!. The MANY who waited for the MORNING, which in fact WATCHED for it which alludes to even another CULT. That of a FALSE RAPTURE CULT in David's day. They via the false prophets of the time distorted the PROPHECIES that were written up till then and awaited JEHOVAH to rapture them out. Or else, why would they watch for the MORNING which was clearly understood by even the false gospel proponents of David's time to mean the RESURRECTION OF THE QUICK AND THE DEAD. Needless to say, it reeks of FALSE RAPTURE CULT doctrine. Now, so that you know conclusively that were dealing with the exact same two groups today as David did in his day, lets look at a couple of things. Remember what David said at the very beginning of the Psalms....."Kiss the SON lest ye perish in the WAY......". David new who his REDEEMER was, and he knew who his NAME was, and I'm tellin ya folks, its not what the false gospel YAHWEH CULT is tellin ya:

        Theories a lot of stuff said here if your paying attention. The emphasis here is the reference to KNOWN MY NAME. It confirms also the missing doctrine of seeking the FACE and it also confirms the missing doctrine of God literally MANIFESTING AND "ANSWERING" THAT BELIEVER. In this case, the believer also referenced is DAVID for it is yet another place of him baring a biblical testimony. This "salvation" was not "shewed" by the SCRIPTURE or the written word but by the spoken word 100% EXPERIENTIALLY. David saw the Face of the lord as he is.....A SPIRIT, just like Job did and he spoke to David, and he "shewed" him his SALVATION. David knew who to expect though for he KNEW HIS NAME. Why would David mention this by the spirit of God if not that his kinsmen and familiar friends knew him by another NAME?. I point you once again to ch.2:16 in the Psalms and tell me there wasn't a JEHOVAH YAHWEH CULT around back then like we have today!. Sorry, he was known as "I AM" and the "Son" was known as the "HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL"!!!. Those names written even in the very Psalms David wrote. There are oodles and oodles of verses throughout the Psalms and even all the Prophets and the Torah in the O.T. that talk on the missing doctrine of seeking the "face" of the Lord. The bible is literally SEETHING with this doctrine, yet its totally missing in modern theology. The N.T. apostles and Jesus Christ himself spoke lots about this "SET" APPOINTED TIME for everyone who claims the NAME.

       Well now, seeing how Jesus had come and left and the Holy Spirit was already poured out, what "APPEARING" would the apostles here be talking about.....Hmmm?. Obviously something apart from those things and is talking about the SET APPOINTED TIME via the seeking of the FACE of the Lord, only IN TRUTH!!!. Who is to 'appear', why its JESUS CHRIST......THE "SON".......THE "REDEEMER", for it is he who bought the world to ransom his OWN!!!. Tell me, were these folks "saved" in truth yet, were they born-again in truth, hence why doth they WAIT for his APPEARING?. What answer does the modern false prophets have for such verses in the N.T. to uphold there false gospel doctrines of DEMONS?. These folks in the church awaited something other than PENTECOST and the RESURRECTION of Christ for those things were already PAST!!!. Umm.....what do you think Jesus meant by:

     Could the missing "doctrine" of seeking the FACE of the Lord have anything to do with it? It most certainly has EVERYTHING to do with it. This statement by Christ sums up the COMMANDMENT to SEEK THE "FACE" OF THE LORD!!!. You, who are called by HIS NAME......who's name? Well, you are a CHRISTIAN therefore Jesus Christ is your Lord I hope for as I said earlier, there be LORDS MANY in the church now as it was back then , and even before. You are to seek the "face" of JESUS CHRIST and to WAIT for his APPEARING!!!. This is a Christians BLESSED HOPE according to Titus. What time is it? Were on the brink of the Lords SECOND COMING. He's comein to get HIS OWN. His own are SEEKING HIS "FACE" or have found his face and you shall only know then IN TRUTH by there "testimony" and there "marks" if they claim they are SEALED for these are the ULTIMATE "FRUITS" OF PROOF so that you can know they are "authentic".  Yepper, without the "marks" of authentic regeneration, these people HYPOCRITES who have justified themselves by believing they are SAVED purely by BELIEF in the scripture. The bible says something else altogether and says that you are to persevere towards a fully experiential APPEARING of Jesus Christ and that this "visitation" is a SET & APPOINTED "visitation" for all top SEARCH OUT and WAIT for. Oh, but you must enter in and walk the narrow way of TRUTH, and JUDGMENT, and REPENTANCE, on towards SALVATION IN TRUTH which is then and only then VICTORY from the "race" that Paul spoke of. So then, who are the ones who SEEK this "appearing".

            Well then, we have confirmation out of Jesus Christ's mouth that this lost "doctrine" of seeking and finding God LITERALLY is a truth. Jesus Christ says "HE" WILL "MANIFEST HIMSELF" TO THAT BELIEVER THAT "LOVES" HIM!!!. He will 'come unto him' and make his ABODE with him, and that means until then he is not making his "abode" with you. read 2 Tim. very carefully for it is very "rich". He already seen FACE of the Lord and he was telling all those who were waiting for their VISITATION that they had a CROWN laid up for them as well for only they do!. The others who "justified" themselves via a FALSE GOSPEL do not wait for his "appearing" they wait for the MORNING!!!. This either by FALSE GOSPEL or FALSE RAPTURE doctrines and all other types like them. If one has believed that he is SAVED by the scripture, he has no reason to SEEK GODS "FACE". He believes he's "saved" by GRACE through FAITH and will not let you BOAST against his false lying position because he is "I AM" IN HIS "HEAD" via a false gospel. Oh yes, there is something most definitely wrong with modern theology for this is totally lost and SCOFFED at by them. This is worded and INTERPRETED AWAY to mean something other than what it means in modern day Babylon. Now, if a man in position of authority is preaching and teaching and has testified that he is SEALED and BORN-AGAIN, you had better check that guys testimony and marks for he could be at the moment for all intensive purposes a WOLF in sheep's clothing. That teacher or preacher better be in TRUTH or else he gonna get it real good by the GREAT GOD and you can bet on it. That teacher or preacher is not an enemy of Jesus Christ, no, they uphold Jesus Christ. These teachers and preachers are ENEMIES OF THE "CROSS". They are enemies of the true narrow way, straight gate, lowest room. They prevent you to ENTER IN and seek his face, and they themselves do not ENTER IN and walk the narrow way. They will give you a SAVED BY BELIEF IN THE SCRIPTURE doctrine that says they are I AM and need not "SEE" THE SON!!!. They are false through and through and there MOUTHS NEED TO BE STOPPED for they "pervert" the way of God and take those they lead out of THE WAY!!!.THEY KILL THE "SEED" for it never bears fruit cause the FACE OF JESUS NEVER SHINES ON THEM!!!. They create sub doctrines and claim it is but a SECOND BLESSING and not necessary for ye are saved by GRACE through FAITH lest....."YE"......boast. Humble yourself you and ABASE yourself and walk in truth lest you NEVER see the "face" of the son and you perish from the way. You are not saved IN TRUTH until you have seen the face of God and LIVED!!!. You do not get sealed, born-again, quickened, ransomed, redeemed, SAVED.........."UNTIL" then in truth and that's another one of those missing doctrines in modern theology found throughout the scripture.